Richard Bernecker <email@example.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:09:11 -0500
Editor's Note: This item is from an email sent to the Long Distance Riders mailing list in response to a comment about Bill Mayer saddles. A more complete review of Richard's experiences has been requested and is under development.
>Very nice guy, we talked a bit about seat technology etc.
>He seems to know what he is talking about.
He does. Bill is a *very* nice guy, and I've had three seats re- done by him since he re-joined the biz (primarily because I find him so likeable). Problem is, at least for me, none of his current seats have been nearly as good as the old Mayer's, er, the current Russell's. Bill tries to duplicate, using foam, the sprung "wings" of his original design (currently sold by Russell, the design rights for which Bill sold to Russell some years back). My experiences have been that the "foam wing" approach cannot approach the reduction in chafing, binding, and hot spots which the "sprung wing" affords. Granted, the Mayer is a far sight better than my experiences with the Sargents SuperCell or Corbin seats, but not nearly as good as with my Russell. Having said that, I know of one rider with a hip problem who could not use the Russell without significant pain but loves his Mayer. IOW, YMMV is a very appropriate expression here. My advice, having been thru this with the Russell, Mayer, Sargents, Corbin, and BMW's accessory seats within the last three years, is to start with a Russell and move on if that doesn't work for ya. You can *always* get your money back out of a Russell, something which cannot yet be said for most other options.. FWIW,
Herndon, VA, USoA
Corbin, Meyer, Russell, and Sargent seats for BMW seats
John Filak <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:08:53 -0800 (PST)
> It appears that Russell is willing to solve your seating
> problems for you and Sargent is willing to build whatever
> you give instructions for. This is my problem
It is also Sargents' basis for no satisfaction guarantees. Since YOU specify the mods, it's not THEIR fault if you're not happy with them. Sargents only warrants for materials and workmanship (M&W). And their M&W is very good. But just don't blame them if your ass still hurts.
Personally, I would only recommend Sargents for a straighforward re-cover/re-foam job. This is really their forte. No matter what they say on their website or in their brochures, they are only willing to stand behind their ability to re-upholster a stock seat. They are not designers, nor do they claim to be.
In the case of Russell (and Mayer for that matter), THEY do the design, THEY guarantee satisfaction. YOU don't accept the blame for anything.
... happy owner of two Sargents seats and one Mayer seat,
Sussex County ~ New Jersey
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